2017 FFE DC charging problem and solution Important!

Anti_Climax · Oct 31, 2024

Like I noted above, there's a position dependent resistance for the solenoid. You could get a +/-12V bistable relay (note it stays locked even after the =12V drops to 0V) and set up the required resistances on the pins. If necessary I can confirm the specific pins on the EVCC that monitor the signal. Looks like it's a 1K resistor that's always in line and a 10K that gets shorted in only one position. This should actually be inside the locking solenoid which should be serviceable - they are removable on most of the inlets I've seen. If someone can pull their inlet to see who manufactured it, we can look for a real replacement.

Sftbldad · Nov 1, 2024

1624129 phoenix, subsidiary of Kuster industries….

Дмитрий Василец · Dec 9, 2024

Sftbldad said:
For all who get p0d98 there is a workaround that I and other members have used… Ford requires replacement of the entire charging harness. This is only an issue in models with level 3 charging capabilities…It requires installing a 1k ohm resistor to fool the computer to allow level 1&2 charging. You will loose level 3… Just message me if you need more info…

Hello. I have same problem, could you pls tell me some more details, regarding solution with 1koms resistor.
Thanks in advance

Anti_Climax · Dec 9, 2024

Дмитрий Василец said:
Hello. I have same problem, could you pls tell me some more details, regarding solution with 1koms resistor.
Thanks in advance

What is your question?

Дмитрий Василец · Dec 10, 2024

Anti_Climax said:
What is your question?

I can't change my car on DC chargers.
Look pin even not trying to move, when charger connected. I remove charger look from socket, and tried to close it manually, during start process of DC charging, but in present moment, no results...

Sftbldad · Dec 10, 2024

Long story short- There is an interlock connector inside your plug housing. When it breaks it can disable charging and give a p0d98. You can install a 1k ohm resistor between the computer control wires which will fool the computer to give you back level 1 and 2 charging. The interlock shows 1k resistance open and ruffly 10k closed… Refer to Anti’s post to see the switch schematic…

Дмитрий Василец · Dec 10, 2024

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Sftbldad said:
Long story short- There is an interlock connector inside your plug housing. When it breaks it can disable charging and give a p0d98. You can install a 1k ohm resistor between the computer control wires which will fool the computer to give you back level 1 and 2 charging. The interlock shows 1k resistance open and ruffly 10k closed… Refer to Anti’s post to see the switch schematic…

Yours well noted with thanks.
I succeed to measure resistance on open interlock resistance is 1koms;
on full closed interlock is 1koms;
Between open and close position resistance is 11koms(I make manually).
So it means, car always have 1kom, but charging process is not beginning...

Anti_Climax · Dec 10, 2024

Yeah, if you have that error and you're trying to use L3, you'll need to add in a relay or similar to change the resistance and make it think it's locking. The other fix just leaves it able to use L1/L2 without a problem.

Дмитрий Василец · Wednesday at 1:25 AM

Anti_Climax said:
Yeah, if you have that error and you're trying to use L3, you'll need to add in a relay or similar to change the resistance and make it think it's locking. The other fix just leaves it able to use L1/L2 without a problem.

Could you please explain, what it means L1/L2/L3?
Many thanks for your help

Anti_Climax · Wednesday at 2:25 AM

Level 1 and Level 2 are AC Mains charging. In countries that have 120V service you can do level 1 charging up to 16A, though the focus electric is set to a maximum of 12A. Charging with 220V is Level 2. DC fast charging is Level 3 charging.

If the latch resistor is failing it can be bypassed to allow AC charging, since AC charging doesn't use it. For DC charging, it needs to be simulated if it can't actually be fixed. Something like wiring a relay to the solenoid wires that connects/disconnects resistance on the sense leads so the car sees what it expects.

Дмитрий Василец · Wednesday at 3:04 PM

Anti_Climax said:
Level 1 and Level 2 are AC Mains charging. In countries that have 120V service you can do level 1 charging up to 16A, though the focus electric is set to a maximum of 12A. Charging with 220V is Level 2. DC fast charging is Level 3 charging.

If the latch resistor is failing it can be bypassed to allow AC charging, since AC charging doesn't use it. For DC charging, it needs to be simulated if it can't actually be fixed. Something like wiring a relay to the solenoid wires that connects/disconnects resistance on the sense leads so the car sees what it expects.

Many thanks for assistance, L1/L2 charging above mentioned car without any problems, but L3 not working at all. So, I will try to manage with relay an resistors.
And will send some details regarding my progress.
With best regards

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