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RickInAustin

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I am considering purchasing the Ford branded Levitron EVSE at http://ford.leviton.com/

I also like the portability of the Jesla at http://openevse-store.myshopify.com/products/quick-charge-power-jesla-is-the-40-amp-j1772-portable-charging-solution
but I worry that it might not be compatible with (or worse damage) the FFE.

Any advice on these or other 240V/32A EVSE products?
 
I've used the JESLA (I did the conversion myself, but same thing) since November. No issues. It's the most flexible EVSE out there. Based on the adapter you use you can make your own additional adapters and plug into any outlet available. NEMA 5-15, 5-20, 6-15, 6-20, 6-30, 6-50, 14-30, L14-30, 14-50, 14-60, SS2-50, 10-30, 10-50 and TT-30. And best of all, you really don't have to worry about any of the problems Tesla owners have had since the FFE will only pull 30A max. The only problems with it have been at the 40A level.
 
RickInAustin said:
I am considering purchasing the Ford branded Levitron EVSE at http://ford.leviton.com/

I also like the portability of the Jesla at http://openevse-store.myshopify.com/products/quick-charge-power-jesla-is-the-40-amp-j1772-portable-charging-solution
but I worry that it might not be compatible with (or worse damage) the FFE.

Any advice on these or other 240V/32A EVSE products?
Personally, I'd stay away from Leviton. They're having compatibility issues with the i3, and I personally know that it didn't work with the ActiveE. The relay goes nuts in the EVSE and the cars won't charge. Leviton is working with BMW on it, but who knows when/if the issue will actually be fixed. I would stick to EVSEs that are working with all EVSEs that are out there that way you don't have an issue with your next EV.

The Jesla intrigues me, but the lack of a UL Listing scares the bejesus out of me in regards to insurance liability. As a result, I've got a Clipper Creek CS-40 hardwired at the house and a portable LCS-25P with the L6-30 connector like cwstnsko.

cwstnsko said:
If I do decide to invest in a hard mounted, dedicated stationary EVSE, I think I'll opt for something with some headroom for future proofing like the Clipper Creek HCS-60.
I've never seen the point of future proofing with a higher amperage EVSE as a good solution for most people. Even the aforementioned LCS-25 will charge an 85 kWh Model S in about 20 hours. The CC HCS-40 will charge it in 14-15 hours. In my mind, you're better off installing a larger wire from your panel as future proofing. That way you can install a second EVSE when the inevitable 2nd EV arrives and you don't have to go out and switch the plug in the middle of the night.
 
cwstnsko said:
If I do decide to invest in a hard mounted, dedicated stationary EVSE, I think I'll opt for something with some headroom for future proofing like the Clipper Creek HCS-60.

The Clipper Creek HCS-40 will fully saturate the charger on the FFE. And is ~$300 cheaper, and most importantly has a much lighter and easier to deal with cord.

I have both a HCS-40 and HCS-60 in my garage for the FFE and Model S respectively. And kind of wish I went with two of the 40s even though it wouldn't top out the Model S charging.
 
cwstnsko said:
If portability is important, and you feel you absolutely have to be able to charge at the full 6.6 kW rate, then I believe the JESLA unit is the only one that meets all of those requirements.
Nope, the $450 Juicebox by EMW meets all of these requirements and with a higher potential amperage. http://emotorwerks.com/products/online-store/product/show/44-customizable-juicebox-an-open-source-level-2-15kw-ev-charging-station

I have used the Juicebox since September 2013 with excellent results. (Note that UL certification is a few months away according to the website. Registration has been submitted.)

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unplugged said:
cwstnsko said:
If portability is important, and you feel you absolutely have to be able to charge at the full 6.6 kW rate, then I believe the JESLA unit is the only one that meets all of those requirements.
Nope, the $450 Juicebox by EMW meets all of these requirements and with a higher potential amperage. http://emotorwerks.com/products/online-store/product/show/44-customizable-juicebox-an-open-source-level-2-15kw-ev-charging-station

I have used the Juicebox since September 2013 with excellent results. (Note that UL certification is a few months away according to the website. Registration has been submitted.)

In fairness the JESLA (isn't UL listed either) is much smaller than the Juicebox. And soft sided to reduce the threat of scratching surfaces. Not to mention a stupidly flexible cord (double small gauge conductors in the cord).

But the JESLA is also quite pricey.
 
ElSupreme said:
In fairness the JESLA (isn't UL listed either) is much smaller than the Juicebox. And soft sided to reduce the threat of scratching surfaces. Not to mention a stupidly flexible cord (double small gauge conductors in the cord).

But the JESLA is also quite pricey.
I like the raw aluminum ruggedness of the Juicebox. I was able to add a solid aluminum handle to the top in order to attach my Masterlock "Cuffs". The unit is UL compliant watertight, so it can handle harsh conditions. I don't want the unit to be pretty because I use it in curb gutters, on top of work benches and in parking garages.

I do like the look and compactness of the JESLA, and I would like it on the wall of my garage. But where I put the Juicebox, I don't want anyone admiring my charging unit. I want them to think, "what a crappy piece of industrial hardware."
 
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